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As a nation we’ve always punched above our weight on an international scale – whether it be on the sporting field or in the lab.

Despite our small population, Australia has been the birthplace of some of the world’s most advanced technologies. Things that have changed the world for the better like Wi-Fi, spray on skin, the bionic ear, the pacemaker, ultrasound and don’t forget Vegemite.

But despite these achievements, we’re still lagging behind the rest of the world in a very important area.

Average Internet speeds

You might be surprised to discover that according to the Akamai State of the Internet Report Australia doesn’t rank within the top 10 countries in the world when it comes to average internet speeds. We don’t even crack the Top 40. Australia occupies the less glamorous position of 44.

So what are all those other countries are doing with their faster Internet speeds?

Sweden

Home of the Smörgåsbord, ABBA and Ikea – Sweden has the 7th fastest average internet speeds in the world. It’s also the proud birthplace of Spotify, a commercial music streaming platform with over 40 million users, that has changed the way people listen to music around the world.

Of course, thanks to their internet connections, the Swedes don’t experience any buffering or lag while listening to “Waterloo” (or The Hives and Miike Snow, if you’d like a more contemporary music reference.)

United States

In the US (ranked 10th) Netflix has revolutionised the way Americans watch TV, creating a corporate juggernaut with over 40 million customers worldwide, over 4 billion dollars in revenue and creating it’s own Emmy and Golden Globe winning content.

Which brings us to the number one spot….

South Korea

The South Koreans have long been associated with advanced technology. With companies like Samsung, LG, Daewoo and Hyandai to name a few, it’s not surprising that they also have the fastest average internet speeds in the world. They also have a strong gaming culture – with those fast Internet speeds they have a considerable advantage in electronic sports (eSports), where milliseconds definitely matter!

But out of the 43 countries that have faster average Internet speeds than Australia, there are also a few countries that might surprise you.

Slovakia (Number 33)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImExPhBePgE

Romania (Number 29)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypmWTWhV3t8

Come on Australia!

As NBN Experts, we think Australia needs to get up to speed. We’re doing our best to provide all the information you need to know about the NBN, in a clear and simple way. In fact, we recently commissioned research into Australian’s understanding of the NBN – with some very surprising results!

And when it comes to average internet speeds just look at the facts:

  • Only 9.7% of our population averages a connection speed over 10Mbps.
  • Shockingly 46% of the population average below 4Mbps.

So you can understand why HD entertainment is a pipe dream for many…

Should we be taking this lying down Australia? No, it’s a matter of national pride!

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88 comments

  1. Steven Herod says:

    Great. But afaik the NBN rollout in my area has ceased and won’t proceed. I can’t figure out what is going to happen.

    • Tim says:

      The plan at this stage, assuming Turnbull gets his way (which he probably will) is to re-define the NBN via the foxtel network. What platform at this stage is not clear but since Murdoch put the Libs in power that’s almost certainly going to happen, hence many ground cabling projects have been axed.

  2. Ivana says:

    Interesting how you`re picking Slovakia, is there a specific reason? I`m Slovak and I worked for you guys in the past and yes, you have slower internet and customer service. No need to point finger on countries that have maybe different economy but a lot of great things as well!!!

    • Brad says:

      @Ivana, G’day Ivana iiNet just put Slovakia on the map be happy for your Homeland an unknown Country with better Internet speeds I have come across other unknown Country’s when I was gaming they spoke of speeds in units of 10MiB My guess is they started from scratch using the latest and greatest technology. Got the smartest Hacks in them places to educated with Linux not Apple or Windows.

      • James says:

        It’s a shame that countries such as the US and Australia are ignorant of other countries in Europe. It goes to show how isolated Australia and the US is from the rest of the world.Geography teachers must be in short suppl in both countries!!

    • Brando Connor says:

      @Ivana, Its a pun: Slow-vakia… and Australia is slower. Not picking on Slovakia.

  3. Chris Rigby says:

    Hi.
    I am in an area where the NBN was rolled out, but unfortunately, upon the change og government, it stopped about 6 streets away from me.
    Ever since work commenced on the NBN here, I and many others, have experienced a huge drop in download speed in the early and late evenings due to congestion.
    I am paying good, hard earned money to pay for a service that does not deliver when I need it most.
    I go from 14-15 Mbps in the mornings, to 1.2-1.5Mbps when I get home from work.
    Rant over.

    Chris.

  4. Jim Armstrong says:

    I have been a Westnet internet ADSL customer for some years, but have a TELSTRA landline, also for many years. What are the implications of the NBN for my home connections, when it arrives in 2015/16?
    Jim

  5. Robin Krabbe says:

    We are now connected to fixed wireless internet for about 9 month. My opinion is that as more and more people connect in our area hour real speed goes down every week .
    It is not possible anymore to watch u tube videos during piek hours (8 Pm.)
    If we run a speed test than it shows up as fast. There is a big lag before you connect.To Us this looks like our connection with the tower is good but the capacity of the tower or other connections upstream get overloaded

    Regards

    Robin & Kees

  6. Graham Tudor says:

    It seems to me that this is another stuff up by labor that the present Govt. has to address

    • Shaun says:

      @Graham Tudor, its actually the exact opposite of that, Graham. The Labor NBN was fiber to your door, the Libs are doing fiber to a node and using existing decrepit, dilapidated Telstra copper (yes, the often corroded copper with the plastic lunch bags “protecting” it from water) as the last leg to your home.

      • Jezza says:

        @Shaun,
        Atleast NBN is available or coming soon to most of you, i live right on the beach overlooking the cliff, good ol Adelaide.
        NBN is on either suburbs of me, but have no plans to even start construction here. I barely make ADSL 2 connection speed at the best of times. at 3am i can max speed out at 200kb/sec if im lucky. when it rains, lucky to get any internet. Telcos and ISP’s have said deal with it. Some of you are dam lucky to have net that even works

    • philo says:

      actually no stuff up by labor, just a group of liberals that still use land base telephones, and do not realise the cost savings to the bush bringing doctors online to these remote areas. never has and never was a stuff up, just stupid interference from the boguns of the corporate world.

    • Vern Donaldson says:

      @Graham Tudor, The coalition has cut it right back

    • Norm Lee says:

      @Graham Tudor, no, Grahm, Labor got it right. It’s the Libs that have stuffed it up by insisting on you keeping the copper wire from your house to the node. I live in one of the first areas to be connected by NBN (under the last Labor government) , full fibreoptic to the node and let me tell you it is bloody brilliant. Write to Mal Turnbull and tell him that you want a full-fibre network. This is yet another Lib stuffup
      Norm

    • Miss Pond says:

      @Graham Tudor, Surely you mean “stuff up by Coalition” as they cannot even comprehend what upgrading to a fibre optic network would do for not only entertainment but educational and research purposes – oh wait, that’s the same government that’s cutting funding to education, medical services, the CSIRO and are on their hands and knees for Murdoch. Educate yourself with Fibre to the Home, and why copper is outdated, unreliable, expensive to maintain… and the list goes on. Optical fibre is a big investment for an even bigger, long term gain – a more reliable, digital signal which needs to be done properly the first time. The next time you decide to play keyword warrior and make an ignorant comment because of your political beliefs, take 1 step back, do a little research and educate yourself.

    • F. Fidalgo says:

      @Graham Tudor,

      Are you serious? A stuff up by Labor? If there is anyone that stuffed up is the Liberal Party. The MBN under Labor was excellent. Under the Libs it’s a joke. They are basically destroying what Labor started. I didn’t vote for either party, because I want them both out of government, but if Labor is bad, the Liberals are evil.

    • Werner says:

      what are you talking about Graham ? .. it was labor who had the foresight and initiated the NBN in the first place only to have it stopped by this LNP government so they can fiddle around to find the cheapest / piecemeal internet connection they can come up with .. and all this in a country, which in earlier, “good” times managed to built the Snowy Mountain Scheme and suddenly can no longer build either, a fast Rail network OR A DEASENT INTERNET CONNECTION SYSTEM

      @Graham Tudor,

      • Edward Dekkers says:

        @Werner, Love all the replies including yours, but a small correction, I believe this cock up of an excuse for an NBN the libs have come up with is certainly not cheapest. Apparently it will cost $41b. So what are we gaining doing it with copper FttN? Absolutely nothing. Just keeping Murdoch, and the personal friends of Malcolm’s on the new NBNCo board well paid.

  7. Dale says:

    Will you guys be delivering deals with the FTTN? unfortunately my area will be getting this and not the way better FTTP

  8. Alex Anderson says:

    Re your statement “So you can understand why HD entertainment is a pipe dream for many…”.

    As long as it remains this way, the Coalition government has served its mate Murdoch well. I do not expect serious change until there is a serious change in Canberra.

  9. Valerie says:

    We moved into a large retirement complex in Glenhaven NSW and have an NBN connection box installed in our comms box. Apparently the roll out to our area was withdrawn as the complex developed. Frustrated.

  10. Gerber says:

    This is Australia, Unless there is some thing in it for the politicians, we will still be waiting for the “fast” network in 40 years

  11. Peter says:

    “Shockingly 46% of the population average below 4Mbps.”

    I’m with iiNet on ADSL and I’m only getting 1.3Mb/s. I’m shocked and I’d like to know why. I’m in Butler, 6036 WA.

    • Stuart says:

      Because your network is built and operated by Telstra, noone else is allowed to build a line to your house, and there is no reason for telstra to every upgrade their network. IInet can only rent space in the hub, and connect your o the greater internet from there. If the Telstra-owned copper to your home is bad, then we need to wait until someone decides to start building a NBN again before it will get faster.

    • Stuart says:

      @Peter,
      Because your network is built and operated by Telstra, noone else is allowed to build a line to your house, and there is no reason for telstra to every upgrade their network. IInet can only rent space in the hub, and connect your o the greater internet from there. If the Telstra-owned copper to your home is bad, then we need to wait until someone decides to start building a NBN again before it will get faster.

    • Steve says:

      @Peter,

      Yeah me too… I’m 45mins outside of Sydney CBD and I average about the same speeds… I can’t even stream Youtube on my TV’s. It’s very bad. As a graphic and web designer my entire business revolves around computers and online content.

    • joonbuggy says:

      @Peter, In Mindarie and getting 15Mbps (and very grateful) on ADSL2 via Telstra copper with iiNet as provider. Only 300m from the exchange which I think (?) makes a huge difference. Can stream fertchTV, AppleTV and (geo-UNblocked) NetFlix no problem. Disappointing the experience is so varied for so many people. Come on Mr Abbott … get your SHiiNet together!

    • Anthony says:

      I just ran a speed test … I’m getting 6.64 Mb/s download and 0.73 Md/s upload. I’m located in Karrinyup, 6018.

  12. Michael Stroud says:

    This article is fine, but does not give us any indication where Australia will be after full coverage of the NBN.

  13. Michael More says:

    Congratulations on at least trying to keep us up to date with what many people currently consider a pipe dream.!!

  14. David Agostini says:

    I have just returned from traveling in the US.
    You indicate that they are well ahead of us.
    They are installing fiber optics in a small number of communities but the majority of the country is no where near to being connected. From what I have seen, they are way behind. In many ways they are taking a more sensible approach in determining where the revenue is going to come from to pay for the investment before they go for a large scale country wide plan

    • Edward Dekkers says:

      @David Agostini, except it’s called cherry picking David, and exactly what NBNCo was supposed to avoid. Also they ARE way ahead in SPEED. So even if their fibre is not connected the average speed they connect at is faster than us. Nothing to do with where they’re at with fibre. the US is a big cable media user so you’ll probably find they’re connected with cable at the moment, not our crappy telephone lines. Cable can push 100Mbps and more. Cherry picking is what private companies do, hence our decline from 9th in the world with regards to telecommunications in 1983 to a wonderfully paltry 44th when it comes to data communications. Telstra’s privatization is a big cause of that too. An agnostic Labor NBNCo going where it’s needed most was the best way to do this. Sure the return on investment wouldn’t be immediate but look at the future (bigger) picture and by connecting our rural areas who may only have access to satellite or nothing even first, we are actually adding to internet based productivity faster than by simply upgrading people who are already well served.

  15. Brad says:

    I remember when South Koreans got their connections the average speed reported was 20MiB’s from a 3rd world to 20MiB’s! Reason was they no infrastructure so all the Fibre? lines were brand new… something like that.

    re: NBN It all started 2012 I guess, checked my local exchange- Pendle Hill, for NBN work had commenced 18 month wait ok that’s good so thought I’m not going to count the weeks forget about it and it will come. I looked it up beginning of this year and it was gone the job had disappeared! after screaming Gillard several times and collapsing I came to the fact that we just had a change
    of government and this dirty game of politics must of destroyed everything on the
    way out. So is this what happen all these work orders stopped with the change? Could you give Me some idea?
    I gave up Gaming 6+years ago, there’s no hope.

    Faith no more.

  16. David says:

    All this so people can watch more movies? What benifit is that? Does it improve the GDP? Bring manufacturing into Australia? Improve farming? Create jobs? Improve health? Or health care?

    • David says:

      @David,
      I think the example of ‘watch more movies’ resonates with a lot of the population for social reasons (itunes downloads, youtube etc). Regarding the other areas you’ve commented on; absolutely. I recently attended a large health conference in Melbourne where a live education of heart surgery was streamed direct from a hospital into the plenary session where 3000 people could be educated on this. Naturally a high speed connection is required for this, so yes, we all benefited. Hope that helps to see a broader view other than the typical gaming/movie side of things.

    • Lee says:

      @David, you should have a look at the costings that say the savings in telehealth alone could pay for the proper NBN. That’s before we count in education. And farmers do use it but in regional areas they need better connections. So many ways it might be used that we don’t even know about yet!. You need to get out more.

    • Steven says:

      @David,

      Does it improve the GDP? – Yes
      Bring manufacturing into Australia? – 3D printing?
      Improve farming? – Delivers better education and entertainment options to regional and rural communities.
      Create jobs? – Yes, Google Fibre rollout has grown the number of startups and jobs in the communities it has been installed in.
      Improve health? – Yes. Telecommuting means less time travelling and more time with family and healthy pursuits.
      Or health care? – Yes. Telehealth for remote diagnosis is a major drawcard.

    • Miss Pond says:

      @David, It very well could do all of these things and more. iiNet sell entertainment, not health.

      • Jimf says:

        @Miss Pond, but iinet does do education, thru communication. We’re talking now. So think of more useful possibilities of fibre to premises, don’t shoot the messenger. Think outside the metropolitan capitals where Telstra dominates supply and speeds are generally ADSL1at best, if it exists at all.

    • Herowin says:

      @David,
      The healthcare thing. Did you know that one of the bigger strains on ambulance services are the elderly, most commonly when they have a fall. There is a way to monitor the health of these elderly people remotely, even a unit that can sit in there home that can perform required blood pressure and other important health checks and report this immediately to a doctor that the patient can be talking to face to face via something like skype.
      There is this thing. Very worthwhile. Allows the elderly to stay in their home and out of nursing homes for much longer, maintaining their independence and providing assurance for their families.
      Wow! So great! Why don’t we have that?
      Because our internet connection across copper does not provide enough upload, is not stable enough and is not fast enough. Also different areas employ differing speeds and many different technologies so no one size fits all.
      We have no infrastructure that supports telehealth which would save Australia Millions in health care costs and provide better health options to many people including the elderly and the disabled.

    • greg says:

      It might improve your spelling, but I doubt if it will.

  17. stephen ditchfield says:

    NBN wireless is hopeless

    • terenjac says:

      @stephen ditchfield, I disagree with your comment

      …. I live in a small rural town (pop. 300) in Tassie. I have an NBN connection by wireless from a tower situated 2 km from my home. I get 24 MiB’s download and 4.2 upload. I am very happy with that.

  18. Michael White says:

    Can IInet please explain why it is one of the only companies around selling adsl and nbn products with a peak/offpeak caps still. Most other companies have now removed these peak splits and also allowing unlimited uploads across all connection packages. NBN for me is due to be installed in the next 3-4 months and as appealing as the nbn/fetch packages are, the fact that the ofpeak window is extremely small is unappealing. Yet IInet is fighting to stop people from downloading content yet your trying to curb when they can do it. Little confusing really.

    Also when people get capped why are you still slowing the NBN (of all things) back down to 256k speeds. Why not atleast provide a ratio reduction depending on the plan you are on so if you are on the 100/40 plan you are reduced to 12/1mb. Big reduction of the speed but yet somewhat usable for most to continue limited use.

  19. Joe Grech says:

    Love technology but unfortunately voted in the wrong party. I brought it upon myself, so i deserve it.

  20. Andrew says:

    Tax payer money in Australia should be spent on infra structure and massive cut backs on unnecessary services. Australia is moving from a developed country to a developing country.

  21. Wood says:

    For everyone ranting about speeds of 1+ Mbps I live in a new area with an Exchange which is way, way over full, using RIMs etc and only get speeds of 50kbps. I was told that the exchange is not being updated because of the NBN. Now we are not even on the list

    • Josh says:

      @Wood,

      I had the same problem. The RIM was congested in peak periods, ended up with dial-up speeds. Thankfully it was fixed. Just keep complaining to telstra until they do something.

      Liberals have created an absolute mess with the NBN. Nobody knows what’s going on. The fibre to the home plan was much better. Fibre to the node, then old copper to the home makes NO SENSE!

  22. Andrew Lewis says:

    If iiNet can see the need for the NBN, surely it will agree (along with the rest of us) that FTTN simply won’t cut it.

    Why isn’t iinet as vocal in pushing for FTTP as it is with its opposition of filtering?

  23. simon chambers says:

    Ipswich QLD has Fiber cable in the streets just waiting for it to go live.then I have to wait for my connection and hardware.bet it’s still a few months

  24. Joe Bader says:

    We just bought a house in an area that is about 10 years old without doing any serious bandwidth checks since our friends 3 blocks away are getting ADSL2+ and cable with great speeds.

    Unfortunately I discovered our house is connected to a rim (sub-exchange) and the best we get is dismal ADSL. I also pay top dollar to squeeze every Kbps out of it. What’s worst in that I’m working from home now and need to use my mobile network when the ADSL struggles. I use video chat and conferencing often so upload speeds are very important to me, not so much download.

    NBN has not progressed in our area over the last 12 months that I have monitoring it. Our government (or lack there of) needs to get their act together and concentrate on the hardest hit areas first.

  25. Ted says:

    I`m not holding my breath for the NBN. The whole thing has been a farce from day one.

  26. Lucky says:

    I do not ask others to pay for my internet with their taxes,
    I do not want to pay for others use of the internet with my taxes.
    So, when the money for NBN is from voluntary investors and users only then it gets my support.

    • Stuart says:

      @Lucky, Australia is different from other countries in that it is illegal for any company other than Telstra to install a line to your house. Because no-one is allowed to compete with them, there is no competitive edge in them providing faster network speeds, so they stay just ahead of crappy wireless internet, and will stay that way forever, making Australia less competitive in business, crippling the ability of our children to learn, and and cutting people in remote areas off from their friends and relatives. Because The internet is important for the economy of the country, the government did the math and realized that having good internet makes more money than it costs in terms of tax income from increased earnings, and more than pays for itself as people use it (if it remains a government asset).

    • Edward Dekkers says:

      @Lucky, Uhm, before you make uninformed comments that make you look silly, the Labor NBN was not actually being paid for by your tax dollars. Do some research please then you can have your say.

    • greg says:

      @Lucky, Do you use the roads, schools, public transport, police, fire services etc?

  27. Naeem says:

    Hi, I am with iinet and has got NBN Opticomm box . However unable to view the live online streaming TV as it buffers a lot. I have sent all the speed test things but still waiting to hear from iinet technicians. They really need to come to my house and sort this out!

    • Christian Polson-Brown says:

      Hi Naeem,

      We have an outstanding fault for iiNet customers using Opticomm fibre services, check the notice to hereto see if it’s in your area. You can monitor that page for updates, or if it doesn’t affect you it’d be best to get back in touch with our support team.

      Regards,
      Christian

  28. James Barker says:

    Bit of an unbalanced forum when my previous factual post wasn’t posted.
    Worse still, I note the mandatory removal of the copper network. Bit like pulling up all the roads now we have rail lines – copper worked in flooded pits, will fibre? (Rhetorical question: The answer is no.)
    Julia told us we have a $45 billion hole in the budget, oh wait – how much is the NBN costing? To watch movies? Seriously?
    And how can they justify paying the NBN chairman $3 million dollars? It’s already made a $1 billion loss in the last six months. Sorry – there is so much wrong about the NBN, I shall stop now.

    • Stuart says:

      @James Barker, Yes, fibre does work in flooded pits, it is just thin flexible strands of glass, with light running through them. fiber also costs about a billion dollars a year less then copper to upkeep (even ignoring the fact that much of the current copper requires replacement due to age and degradation. On top of that, it isn’t like it is a money pit, it is an investment that will pay itself off many times over, even if it goes over budget. The billions of dollars currently going to telstra for their terrible network and lack of upkeep will go to the NBN company which is government owned. Yes it is expensive, but no their isn’t a cheaper option that doesn’t cripple the economy of the country with slow internet. It is expensive, because Telstra was granted a monopoly on telecommunication lines (literally, it is illegal for anyone else to run them), and was then trusted to keep up to date. That mistake was expensive, and the bill is due now because of the billions of dollars of lost earnings caused by crappy internet.
      To conclude, it isn’t like pulling up the roads, for rail lines, it is like removing incredibly expensive cups on strings, to build a phone network.

    • Steven says:

      @James Barker,

      Seriously??
      The last six months have seen the LNP slash the NBN to pieces. What was needed was a complete overhaul of the infrastructure, not adhoc patch jobs. Labor (despite all of their many faults) promised this. LNP cut it down to keep Murdoch happy. The NBN should have been a government investment, no private partnership for the benefit af the entire country. Those who suggest fast internet is “to watch movies” shows their complete lack of understanding of modern business. Improvements to internet services assists many businesses and shows many efficiency improvements for a range for most businesses, not only modern online business.

      So in correction to your statement, there is so much wrong with the LNP’s current version of the NBN.

    • Edward Dekkers says:

      @James Barker, fibre is actually NOT affected by water if it terminated properly. And yes, I do work with fibre. Copper will also work in flooded pits for a little while until corrosion sets in. Then it won’t. And yes, I also work with copper. Yes the faster NBN WILL give us the ability to watch movies in higher quality, but if that is where you think 45b is going you are more silly than your comments. I’m not going to list all the other things it will bring (again), do some reading please. BUT I DO agree NBNCo board members are paid way too much for sure. I will absolutely give you that one. As for 1 billion loss – also true on a financial profit and loss statement. At 7% ROI it will make a P&L loss the first few years for sure as the infrastructure is built. No how about you actually look at the balance sheet, specifically the assets register? Don’t know what I’m on about? Didn’t think so.

    • Josh says:

      @James Barker,

      Copper has so many problems in flooded pits! Many people dread rainy days because they know their Internet speeds will drop. The copper costs a ridiculous amount to maintain, it’s a waste of money. From what I’ve read Fibre CAN handle the wet conditions much better. How much is it costing? Well, Libs want to spend a little bit less and build an inferior FTTN network instead of doing it right and building FTTH.

      You are very small minded if you think all the NBN will allow us to do is ‘watch more movies’.

    • Ron Sweeney says:

      well I live 8KM from Freemantle W.A and my download speed is, wait for it 150kilobits sec.
      WOW it’s a snails pace.

  29. Gerry says:

    Tony Abbott’s great “Copper Con” – thanks for nothin’

  30. Barry J Vincent says:

    I heard that Mal Turnbull is not even computer ‘savy’ What on earth is he doing directing the roll out of the NBN ?

  31. Andrew says:

    This just demonstrates what an ABSOLUTE JOKE this country is. Lacking in so many things. We are so quick to copy other countries with so many other things. TV shows, Radio station format, etc. Why cant we copy the fast speeds from other countries too?
    We are years behind.
    Shame.

  32. VivM says:

    We just returned from 6 weeks in Europe (Poland, Germany, Netherlands, France, Switzerland and UK) where we stayed in hotels/apartments/private homes all with “iffy” WiFi , so very happy to be back to RELIABLE ADSL2 internet that is fast enough for what we need including watching TV programs on our TV via Iview, that we missed. We have a small population in Australia in a huge country – by the time everyone had present technology FTTH it would have been old technology. Well done to current Government for making changes that enable it to try and get down the debt Australia was left by Labor, and still get speeds up where required. Only a small % of the population needs gaming speeds – why should we all pay for that?

  33. Paul says:

    Typical Australia create an NBN network once completed the technology is obsolete

  34. Iam still only on ADSL not adsl-2 or any thing else. it would be nice to get a better speed.i live near Ipswich which has nbn. so lets get it up and running

  35. colin says:

    Lets talk about Australian firsts!!
    in 1902 Marmite was invented in the UK
    then in 1922 Australia copies the UK
    and brings out Vegemite!! mmmmmmm
    I smell a rat!! or its probably the stink from that brown stuff in the jar!!

  36. Dean de Tongre says:

    If you’re NBN experts, why did you choose to support the government’s roll out of fibre to the node instead of fibre to the premise?

  37. Frank Marsh says:

    All the pros and cons regarding the cost of the NBN so far have focussed on our day-to-day personal use, viz., telephones and entertainment. It amazes me that none of our commentators have mentioned the fact the NBN will become THE ESSENTIAL PART of our National Communication System. Doesn’t everyone know that an atomic device, exploded in the upper atmosphere could paralyse our present communication system, whereas fibre-optics would not be affected? NBN is IMPERATIVE for Australian survival in this nuclear age. Our personal use is a fortunate spin-off, so let’s be thankful.

  38. Mark says:

    Finally. Thank you James Baker for a comment that makes sense and exposes the other side. I’d love faster internet as much as the next person but not at the expense of the countries bottom line in a massive endless money abyss that a mismanaged project like the NBN was from the beginning. Have to say though, stupidist comment above was re benefits delivered to industry with the example of 3d printing. Lol. Yep let’s make everything out of plastic. Funny.

  39. Cornelia says:

    To say that we here in Australia have standard Internet service -by developed world standards-is an understatement. Ridiculously slow speeds (under 4Mb/s) in my area just 45 km from a large metropolitan region is the norm, not the exception.
    ADSL by copper wire delivery system is ever more diluted and slow by the time it reached more distant nodes. Too many customers hooked on the same pipeline that can’t cope.
    This government’s shortsightedness in halting the NBN rollout and sticking with old technology is just an other example of their small checkered , bean counting mentality. No vision for the future whatsoever. It is costing us productivity and convenience already, let alone in the future when we will be forced to adopt fibre optic delivery anyway,if we want to remain part of the developed world. Let’s spend on fiberoptic instead of fighter jets !

  40. Mick says:

    I work on the copper comms network and its a disaster here in Sydney. But then so is the NBN. Went all around my area but my satellite exchange (now huge due to new estates opening up) has been left out right in the middle of all the others connected to NBN.
    NBN was overloaded from the start with high wages paid to supervisors and up ( I should imagine most of the money used was wasted here) but subbies were on crap rates so most pulled out and watching some of the new staff it makes you wonder how long the training is (ie Penrith asbestos fiasco).
    I don’t hold much hope of getting the NBN soon as they have advised 064 copper instead of 040 then a whole lot of upgrade will be required so why not carry on with FTTP – the whole thing just doesn’t add up and the topsy turvy way it is rolled out is a joke – do a whole area not bits and pieces here and there or were those areas labor voters that got done first or am I just being cynical!

  41. greg says:

    To James Baker. My copper phone lines in suburban Sydney certainly didn’t work in a flooded pit. It was originally installed over 80 years ago & had at least 5 joins that I knew of between the street & the house.Are you suggesting it be left or replaced with new copper? Also I think you’ll find that fibre optic cables are well sealed & would be very resistant to water. My goodness one day they might even run them under the ocean…..Oh, they already do!

  42. Patrick Maher says:

    Yes, but don’t innovations such as the NBN require Politicians to have imagination?
    Seriously – we are doomed.

  43. Doris Gillard says:

    Jeez, with all the Labor-loving rubbish here, I must be logged on to ABC’s Q&A!

    And, I note . . . no response to Michael White’s legit comment re iinet’s peak/offpeak caps.

    And . . . why only two pretty expensive plans available for NBN via iinet? Can’t see me sticking with you when it’s available here in a month or three.

  44. Bobi Magee says:

    I am getting only 1.3 in the evenings
    They have stopped the planned roll out of fibre into my area and the copper is satuated and often causes problems in our area
    @ James Barker you have it the wrong way around fibre will work underwater copper hates water JB are you a troll? If you want to post this misinformation you should read up on it first

  45. Cath Walker says:

    I cant even get ADSL broadband at home (only 2.5 hrs from Sydney) so doubt we’ll ever see anything better than mobile broadband where we live. Disgusting for a country like Australia.

  46. The NBN at the moment is a far too costly proposition. The cost per user is way above the currect costing per month. Plus there may be fast speeds between sites but once you enter a site’s domain you are subject to their speeds and some of those are still in the low meg range,i.e. you hit a brick wall.
    I too am frustrated by not receiving what I pay for; I pay for ADSL 2+ but I am lucky if I receive common ADSL and there is no way I can have this changed at present. Supposedly due to the poor copper wires but at times I doubt this.
    My 2 cents worth.

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